Friday, June 01, 2012

Medium Format lens tests

Here is another page from my original "hevanet" website devoted to camera system/optics/film testing -


Medium Format Cameras - Testing Lenses
Copyright 1998/1999/2000 Christopher M. Perez/Kerry L. Thalmann/Mike McDonald - All Rights Reserved
Copyright 2002/2003/2004 Christopher M. Perez - All Rights Reserved
Last Updated: 19 April 2004 




Medium Format (120/620)
Camera / Lens Resolution Testing



Please note: there are four sections found on this page.  Each section represents a particular camera type.  There are sections for SLRs, TLRs, Coupled Rangefinder Cameras, and Folding Cameras (with coupled and non-coupled rangefinders).



 Single Lens Reflex (SLR)
Camera Model Lens cnt mdl edg (l/mm) f/stp Comments
Bronica SQA 80mm f/2.8 Zenzanon-PS 67 53 53 f/2.8
67 67 60 f/4
60 67 60 f/5.6
60 60 60  f/8
60 67 60  f/11
53 53 53 f/16
53 53 53 f/22
very heavy
Bronica SQA 40mm f/4  Zenzanon-PS 60 50 50 f/4
60 52 60 f/5.6
52 52 66 f/8
52 60 66 f/11
60 60 60 f/16
60 54 54 f/22
Big and Beautiful
Bronica SQA 200mm f/4.5  Zenzanon-PS 46 33 33 f/4.5
47 33 33 f/5.6
33 42 27 f/8
42 47 42 f/11
24 26 24 f/16
26 33 26 f/22
Big - take special care for stability
Hasselblad 903 SWC 38mm f/4.5 Biogon T* 68 76 54  f/4.5
96 96 60  f/5.6
85 106 76 f/8
68 76 68  f/11
60 60 60  f/16
Great optics!
Hasselblad 500CM (late 1980's) 80mm f/2.8 Planar CT* 68 68 38  f/2.8
60 60 34  f/4
96 96 54  f/5.6
96 107 60 f/8
85 76 60  f/11
68 68 60  f/16
54 48 48  f/22
Great optics!
Hasselblad 500CM (late 1980's) 120mm f/5.6 Planar-S C (early) 85 85 48  f/5.6
85 85 54  f/8
76 76 60  f/11
76 68 68  f/16
54 54 54  f/22
Nice, if not a little old, optics.
Hasselblad 500CM (late 1980's) 150mm f/4 Sonnar CT* 60 60 48  f/4
76 68 54  f/5.6
85 85 76  f/8
85 85 68  f/11
68 60 60  f/16
60 60 54  f/22
42 38 38  f/32
Nice optics.
Mamiya RZ 65mm f/4 L-A
(floating element)
76 76 68  f/4
76 68 68  f/5.6
96 85 76 f/8
96 96 68  f/11
68 76 60  f/16
Big and Beautiful and very sharp
Mamiya RZ 110mm f/2.8 Z 68 60 60  f/2.8
60 68 68  f/4
76 85 68  f/5.6
76 76 68 f/8
76 68 76  f/11
68 68 68  f/16
54 54 54  f/22
I was hoping that Mamiya's brochure was right and that these optics were "ultra high performance".  Oh well, the Hasselblad still wins the day... but you certainly can't tell from looking at the final prints!
Mamiya RZ 180mm f/4.5 W-N 54 54 42  f/4.5
60 68 60  f/5.6
54 54 60 f/8
54 60 60  f/11
60 68 60  f/16

Pentax 67 - Mirror Lock Up 45mm f/4 66 60 36 f/4
66 66 42 f/5.6
76 66 54 f/8
76 66 54 f/11
66 66 54 f/16
54 48 48 f/22
Big and Beautiful
Pentax 67 - Mirror Lock Up 105mm f/2.4 54 34 19 f/2.4
60 42 19 f/4
76 67 21 f/5.6
67 67 33 f/8
67 67 48 f/11
60 60 60 f/16
48 48 42 f/22
Big and Heavy


Coupled Rangefinder (non-folding)







Camera Model Lens cnt mdl edg (l/mm) f/stp Weight
Fuji GW690III 90mm f/3.5 Fujinon 60 53 47 f/3.5 
60 53 47 f/4
67 67 47 f5.6
67 60 53 f/8
60 67 47 f/11
53 60 60 f/16
53 47 60 f/22
47 47 47 f/32
1460 grams
Mamiya 7 50mm f/4.5 68 76 68 f/4.5
107 96 42 f5.6
107 107 48 f/8
96 96 68 f/11
85 85 68 f/16
54 54 60 f/22
.
Mamiya 7 80mm f/4 120 120 60 f/4
120 120 68 f5.6
120 107 68 f/8
107 107 76 f/11
76 76 68 f/16
60 60 60 f/22
1210 grams 
Mamiya 6 MF 75mm f/3.5 76 76 53 f/3.5 
76 67 53 f/4
95 76 53 f5.6
95 85 53 f/8
85 85 60 f/11
76 67 67 f/16
60 60 53 f/22
1150 grams
Plaubel Makina 67 80mm f/2.8 Nikkor 54 48 60 f/2.8 
60 60 60 f/4
48 60 67 f5.6
48 60 76 f/8
60 67 67 f/11
76 67 67 f/16
67 67 67 f/22


Focused approx 5 inches 'closer' (acording to scale) at 61 inch distance from target-
67 48 48 f/2.8 
76 54 48 f/4
67 60 60 f5.6
85 76 67 f/8
85 76 67 f/11
85 67 60 f/16
60 60 60 f/22


Focused approx 6 inches 'farther' (acording to scale) at 61 inch distance from target-
19 19 19 f/2.8 
24 19 24 f/4
17 19 24 f5.6
21 27 42 f/8
30 36 54 f/11
54 60 67 f/16
?
Twin Lens Reflex (TLR)







Camera Model Lens cnt mdl edg (l/mm) f/stp Weight
Mamiya C220 Pro 80mm f/2.8 48 24 33 f/2.8
60 48 42 f/4
67 60 48 f/5.6
60 67 60 f/8
67 67 60 f/11
67 60 54 f/16
54 54 48 f/22
42 38 38 f/32
3 pounds
Mamiya C220 Pro 55mm f4.5 34 42 21 f/4.5
42 38 21 f/5.6
48 48 21 f/8
60 48 24 f/11
48 48 27 f/16
.
Mamiya C220 Pro 135mm f4.5 42 30 21 f/4.5
48 42 34 f/5.6
60 54 34 f/8
60 54 34 f/11
54 54 38 f/16
48 48 38 f/22
34 28 24 f/32
.
Mamiya C220 Pro 180mm f4.5 38 38 24 f/4.5
42 42 24 f/5.6
54 54 24 f/8
54 54 38 f/11
54 48 38 f/16
38 38 30 f/22
32 30 30 f/32
.
Rolleiflex 2.8E Model 1 US 
(serial #1,62x,xxx)
80mm f/2.8 Schneider Xenotar 54 30 13 f/2.8
107 96 13 f/4
120 68 17 f/5.6
107 96 27 f/8
85 68 48 f/11
76 76 54 f/16
54 54 48 f/22
1280grams - without meter
Rolleiflex 2.8E Model 1 US 
(serial #1,66x,xxx)
80mm f/2.8 Zeiss Planar 68 68 42 f/2.8
76 96 68 f/4
68 76 68 f/5.6
96 96 76 f/8
96 85 68 f/11
68 76 60 f/16
54 60 48 f/22
1200grams - without meter
Rolleiflex 3.5E Model 1 US 
(serial #1,7xx,xxx)
75mm f/3.5 Schneider Xenotar 48 48 24 f/3.5
85 96 42 f/5.6
96 96 68 f/8
76 85 60 f/11
68 68 54 f/16
54 54 42 f/22
1120grams - with meter
Rolleiflex
3.5F Model 3 US 
(serial #2,29x,xxx) 
75mm f/3.5 Zeiss Planar 76 85 48 f/3.5
96 85 60 f/5.6
85 85 60 f/8
76 68 60 f/11
60 68 54 f/16
60 54 48 f/22 
1120grams - with meter
Rolleiflex 3.5F 
(serial #2,2xx,xxx)
75mm f/3.5 Schneider Xenotar 42 38 34 f/3.5
60 60 34 f/4
67 67 34 f/5.6
76 60 60 f/8
67 67 60 f/11
60 54 42 f/16
54 54 38 f/22
1120grams - with meter
Rolleiflex 3.5T
(serial #2,199,xxx)
75mm f/3.5 Zeiss Tessar 54 68 21 f/3.5
68 68 27 f/5.6
68 68 42 f/8
68 60 68 f/11
60 60 48 f/16
48 48 42 f/22
1000 grams (approx)
Rolleiflex
***
(please see note)
Rolleiflex 75mm f/3.5
Schndeider Xenar
31 56 39 f/3.5
22 22 31 f/4
35 39 63 f/5.6
35 35 70 f/8
22 35 70 f/11
39 50 70 f/16
50 50 50 f/22
1100 grams (approx) - This camera must have been out of alignment.  There is no way the Xenar can be this much worse than the other three Rolleis I tested.
Yashica Yashicamat 80mm f/3.5 Yashnon 67 60 53 f/3.5
42 67 53 f/4
53 60 53 f/5.6
38 76 60 f/8
38 67 67 f/11
53 60 60 f/16
47 47 47 f/22
?
Koni-Omega RF system







Focal Length Lens type cnt mdl edg (l/mm) f/stp
58mm f/5.6 Hexanon serial number 7210xxx 42 48 42 f/5.6
54 60 42 f/8
76 76 67 f/11
67 67 60 f/16
60 60 54 f/22
48 48 42 f/32
58mm f/5.6 Wide Omegon serial number 501xxx 67 67 54 f/5.6
67 67 54 f/8
67 76 54 f/11
67 67 60 f/16
54 60 54 f/22
42 42 32 f/32
58mm f/5.6 Hexanon serial number 721x7xx 67 60 30 f/5.6
67 76 30 f/8
67 76 54 f/11
76 67 60 f/16
67 67 60 f/22
90mm f/3.5 Hexanon serial number 37xx71 60 60 19 f/3.5
67 76 24 f/4
76 67 24 f/5.6
85 95 33 f/8
85 95 38 f/11
76 76 48 f/16
67 60 54 f/22
48 42 38 f/32
90mm f/3.5 Hexanon serial number 37xx68 60 60 38 f/3.5
54 60 38 f/4
67 67 38 f/5.6
67 67 42 f/8
67 76 48 f/11
76 76 60 f/16
67 60 54 f/22
48 48 42 f/32
135mm f/3.5 Hexanon serial number 513xxxx 54 54 42 f/3.5
54 48 48 f/4
33 33 60 f/5.6
76 76 76 f/8
76 76 67 f/11
67 67 67 f/16
54 54 54 f/22
42 48 42 f/32
180mm f/4.5 Tele Omegon serial number 901xxx 48 54 30 f/4.5
54 60 34 f/5.6
67 54 42 f/8
67 67 48 f/11
67 60 48 f/16
60 54 42 f/22

Folding Camera



Camera Make Shutter Lens cnt mdl edg (l/mm) f/stp  Weight
Balda Enna Werk Munchen  Prontor-SV B, 1 - 1/300 Ennagon 7.5cm f3.5 33 30 30 f/3.5 
48 42 42 f/4
42 30 34 f5.6
34 30 38 f/8
42 30 42 f/11
53 53 48 f/16
60 43 48 f/22
505 grams
Kodak Special Six20  Compur-Raplid 100mm f/4.5
Kodak Anastigmat
21 19 15 f/4.5  at approx 7'
19 17 17 f/5.6
12 19 19 f/8
14 19 19 f/11
19 24 33 f/16
24 33 43 f/22
42 42 38 f/32


Re-tested at 12 feet:
57 50 36 f/11 at 12' on scale
40 63 45 f/11 at 13' on scale
63 57 31 f/11 at 11' on scale
57 63 36 f/16 at 12' on scale
63 57 50 f/22 at 12' on scale 
Less than 800 grams
Muscova Zeiss Super Ikonta C - like camera made in  Russia ? 11cm f/4.5 16 16 16 f/4.5
19 16 16 f/5.6
13 13 19 f/8
13 12 17 f/11
17 17 19 f/16
26 24 19 f/22
48 38 38 f/32
Less than 900 grams
Graflex Corp. Pacemaker Crown Graphic- RH8/120 rollfilm back (ie: film 'bows' in the middle and needs be compensated for) Supermatic 800 101mm f/4.5 Ektar 17 19 19 f/4.5
54 76 30 f/5.6
76 76 53 f/8
76 85 60 f/11
85 76 60 f/16
67 67 67 f/22
System weight is heavier than other folding cameras, but much less than a TLR or SLR
Graflex Corp. Pacemaker Crown Graphic - RH8/120 rollfilm back (ie: film 'bows' in the middle and needs be compensated for) Rapax 3 1/2"(90mm) Wollensak Wide Angle Raptar 15 30 42 f/6.8
17 15 60 f/8
26 54 67 f/11
54 54 60 f/16
42 54 42 f/22
.
Graflex Corp. Pacemaker Crown Graphic - RH8/120 rollfilm back (ie: film 'bows' in the middle and needs be compensated for) Linhof-Compur Schneider 65mm Angulon f/6.8 19 24 48 f/6.8
34 42 48 f/11
34 54 60 f/16
60 60 42 f/22
.
Voigtlander Perkeo I Pronto B, 1/25 - 1/200 Vaskar 75mm f/4.5 13 24 24 f/4.5
13 24 21 f/5.6
19 30 30 f/8
33 42 42 f/11
38 42 38 f/16
515 grams

Notes:
***It appears that the Rollei lens may be quite fantastic.  Just look at the edge numbers!  But the lack of accurate top lens calibration (happened sometime after leaving the factory) is enough to cause serious sharpness issues.  The Mamiya C220 or Yashica didn't have this problem...
1. It appears that film flatness is a serious issue with some medium format cameras.  It may be that 120 film "bows" in the middle of the pressure plate for some of the cameras tested.  It shows up most frequently when shooting 6x9 (2 1/4 x 3 1/4) format cameras and film backs and earlier Rolleis.
2. Many camera lenses were tested at 20:1 distance to focal length ratio.  Those that weren't are noted in the above table.  For 75mm/80mm lenses this works out to 5 feet from the test target or 50 to 61 inches.  For 100/105mm lenses this works out to 7 feet from the target.
3. For folding cameras the target proximity required that the distance be calculated using a tape measure and the lens being tested was set to that distance on it's scale.  If the distance scale on the lens is mis-calibrated then the lenses optimum resolution would be compromised in these tests.  In many cases this 'reality' is borne out in the test results.  In 'three space' many of these systems will perform better than shooting against a 2D target would suggest.
Test Conditions-
  • All tests were made using Kodak's TMax100 film, processed in D-76 to my system's requirements (zone system), and viewed under 40x magnification.
  • All cameras that supply direct focusing were tested as a system using the focus provided by the direct mechanism.  In the case of the Muscova this is a rangefinder (which may not be accurate as the system tested poorly at 7 feet).  In the case of all TLRs and SLRs the focus was set using the std. groundglass.


Thursday, May 24, 2012

Photography costs!

[This was cross-posted to my Retiring out of America blog]

Yesterday evening I decided to make a few images of la tour Eiffel from out the front window doors.  This time I wanted to make some very high resolution photographs.  This involves taking multiple overlapping photographs of a scene and then stitching them together after the work is downloaded off the camera.

I set up the tripod and worked on the scene from around sunset until just after 2200h.

At 2230 the door bells rings.

Ancient Photographer (me): "Qui est-ce?"

La Police (the oldest of them): "La police."

Thinking as fast as I could about home invasion robberies and the likelihood that these aren't the police, I took a chance and opened the door.  I was greeted by three men in normal street clothes.  One showed me their badge and said...

LP:  "Vous prenez des photos, n'est pas?  Votre voisin nous téléphonons.  Vous avez une télescope, oui?"





100percent crop - la tour Eiffel

 Center section of la tour Eiffel - 100% crop

It turns out, someone across the street from us in the general direction of la tour was concerned I was taking their photo!


AP: "Non.  Je n'ai pas une télescope.  Mais, oui.  J'ai pris des photos.  Et, je ne m’intéresse pas de mes voisins.  Ce qui m’intéresse est la tour Eiffel."

If the man wanted to see a real telescope, I could have showed him a big brass monster that someone across the way keeps in their window.  No doubt for star gazing purposes.  Hah!

LP: "La tour Eiffel?"

AP: "Oui."

He then asked me to show some ID and show him the photos.  But I was a little peeved and asked about how they were clothed.

LP: "Vous n'avez pas de police dans les États-Unis?"

AP: [gestering to my clothing] "Pas comme ça!  Et, ce qui concerne votre identité..."

There must have been just the right tone inflection and indignation as the officer went on to explain they were from the Municipal Police and all they were going to do was go back to the caller and explain I wasn't taking a photo or acting as a "peeping Tom."  The other two police showed me their badges as well.





100percent crop - la tour Eiffel

 Near the very top of la tour Eiffel - 100% crop

About this time, Jude shows up at my elbow and peeks around me to have a look.  She, it turns out, was concerned about the same thing I was.  Home invasion.

AP: "Bouge pas!" [turning to get my passport and camera]

My wife locked the door behind me, but not before I heard the officer saying "... oh, rest assured, I'm not going anywhere..."  I knew I'd hit a cord, yet I had no idea if it was "good" or "bad".  AND having the door locked behind me must have really driven home a point.  Again, I'm still not sure which point that might have been.





la tour Eiffel ~ Creative Commons Licensed

 The Offending Photo at 1/4 resolution of the final result 
~ over 7500x17000 pixels ~

After showing my passport, giving our telephone number, and showing the officer the images of la tour, they bid us a "bon soir" and left.

Jude asked me "Did they really think you would be taking photos of someone in their apartment?  You should've told them "If the person who phoned you is so pretty that they need to be concerned about other people sneaking photos of them, you should have brought them with you so we could've had a look-see for ourselves.""

Funny thing was, while being indignant and trying hard not to be too condescending, I was thinking exactly the same thing.

Alas, my French language skills are several light-years away from that level of banter. Particularly with the "authorities".

Monday, May 14, 2012

Old stuff...

Here is an interesting bit of news.  An early prototype Leica just fetched 2.16MILLION Euros at a recent auction.  That's a far amount of money for something that used 35mm movie film stock.

I suppose I'm not sure how I feel about that amount of money changing hands for a prototype instrument.



Pitcher ~ tin type

 Vintage image?  Or not?  And does it matter which it is?

On the one hand, it could be viewed as an interesting bit of history.  If so, then it should be put in a museum somewhere.  On the other, it makes me wonder why anyone would feel this particularly instrument would be worth that kind of money.

The BBC article notes that "The prices such cameras fetch show the growing interest in early photographic materials."

If this were true, then why these small format cameras and not some of the potentially fascinating equipment from the mid-1800's?  After all, there was an incredible explosion of engineering creativity at the birth of photography.



Montmartre Cemetery

What was used to make this image? Does it matter?

I think of Petzval formula large format lenses.  They were mathematically designed to render out of focus areas of an image in very specific ways.  Few equivalents exist for small format cameras today.  And the lenses which do similar things to the Petzval likely achieve the effects quite by accident, not by design.

That is just a simple single example of something I feel could have incredible value at auction.  If only people understood what went into the making of very early photographic instrumentation.

Then I think about tools of creative expression.  Would this kind of money change hands if it were, say, one of Matisse's paint brushes or a have used glob of Rembrandt's paint?

I suppose the dictum is true: How we spend our money is a direct reflection of our values.

What is valuable in this?  This exercise is left to the reader to sort it out.

Friday, April 27, 2012

... oh... the active mind...

Before we moved to Paris I nearly sold my Nikon manual focus fast apertured lenses.  In fact, I did sell the incredible 180mm f/2.8 Ai I owned.  Fortunately, I kept nearly everything else, including the 24mm and 35mm f/2 Ai lenses, a 50mm f/1.4 and the very sharp 85mm f/2 Ai.

While visiting the Montparnasse Cemetery to say thank you to Soeur Rosalie, I took just a few moments to try my hand at making three images.  So far I have processed two of them and find that I'm very pleased with the results.




Montparnasse Cemetery


The technique is rather straight forward.  Take one Sony APS-C sensored NEX5 and mount up that nice Nikon 50mm f/1.4 and shoot it wide open (you might need a ND or Polarizing filter to knock down the exposure in full sun).  Put the camera into Manual exposure mode and meter the most important part of the scene.  Use that exposure for all shots in the sequence that follows.  Take a series of overlapped images somewhat near the primary subject, spilling the scene well beyond the subject so as to make sure you have covered the scene with enough room to work with.  Stitch the images using Hugin's latest version of open source software or the University of British Columbia's "Autostitch" trial version.  Save a sufficiently large result of the "Ransac'd" output (I like 6000x6000 pixels for the level of resolution I get in the final processed images).  Process to taste.


Yes.  I think the technique works.




Montparnasse Cemetery


It reminds me of shooting 4x5inch large format film using old fast optics shot wide open.  I LOVED those old cameras and lenses and sometimes miss the technique.  Alas, in the digital age my output has increased so dramatically that I can't go back.  So I'm very happy to have found a hybrid approach that helps me achieve the kinds of things I used to dream of doing in 4x5.

All it takes is a little vision and away you go!

Friday, April 20, 2012

Time to get into the groove...

Now the my wife and I are settling into our new home I have a little time to expand my vision and see if I can't plan to make a few nice images.

First, I need to work a few new techniques to see if I can't express the previously un-expressable.


Weathered Whispers



I have to say, it's very exciting to be surrounded by so many incredible opportunities and such a wonderful sense of life and living.

The wine and foods here taste better than I remember them, and we were here only 7 months ago!

The shopping and walking is getting me into shape, I hope, for making the photographic connections into Paris' creative arts community.  I can't wait for our first serious shoot here.  It's possible that it'll be with the Steampunk folks.


Weathered Whispers


Oh man! this is just too good to be true... the risks taken and the work it took to get here are, so far, very much worth the effort...

Sunday, April 15, 2012

Here we go...

What a journey!

My wife and I arrived in Paris earlier this week. Like my wife said, we'd take a couple weeks to do nothing but sleep. I sure feel tired.

I had taken a two month hiatus from taking images. It has been rough, from an artistic perspective. It felt like I was loosing my "vision", or at least it was becoming stale.

Yet, it was well worth taking a break to keep our heads down and concentrated on making the move as smooth and efficient as it was. We moved a few things into storage (a 10x10foot unit) and packed our entire lives into five 29inch suitcases. When the Big Day arrived, we climbed onto a one way flight to Europe (with IcelandAir) and went through Iceland customs where we received our Entry Stamp valid for our one year Long Stay Visa.

In total, the entire process of being laid off after 30 years of working in high tech, receiving our first bill for COBRA (WAY too high at $1100 per month), deciding to live a new dream, preparing and putting our house on the market, having it sell in 7 days!!!, flying to San Fransisco to apply for our visa in person at the French Consulate, finding places for all our things in downsizing our household, packing and making the Big Jump all happened so very quickly. It took five months and 10 days to change our lives in such a massively complete manner.

Once we landed and started to settle into our new apartment I felt inspired by the view out our front window. I had to create a new image.


la tour Eiffel ~ from the Age of Steam


This is partly what the world presented and what I saw in my mind's eye. It'll be interesting to see where this leads.

Saturday, March 31, 2012

... so... it was a short drive...

The last post I said it was driving me crazy. The "it" being that I have no new images nor the time to work on them.

Well, enter 30mins and a new set of ideas.

I took an earlier image of Sushila and worked it in the style of a Louis Vuitton advertisement. I did not like the results.

What to do? Keep going.

It tried a little of "this" and a little of "that".

Et voila! An image that nearly makes me happy. The parts that don't have to do with the texturing and the colors of the textures. These things can easily be resolved.


Maiden


Now, to continue packing and making sure we can fit everything we will live on in 5 29inch suitcases. That is just how small our lives have become after deciding we want to live experiences and to stop collecting "stuff".

Thursday, March 22, 2012

It's driving me crazy...

While we're in the process of moving out of the US, I've had to put my image making "on hold". It's driving me nuts


Rising Motion - Age of Mutations


I love the creative process and haven't had a moment to spend working any of the images that interest me. Further, it'll likely be at least three months after landing in Paris before my portable studio lighting, backdrops, and stands arrive.

I'll have my wee-point and shoots (Sony NEX5) as well as my big DSLRs with me. So local "touristy" images are likely all I'll get to make for awhile.


Alternative History - Age of Hunter



The things that are really calling me are related to the themes of Steampunk, Oilpunk, and Retro-Future. I can "see" the kinds of images I want to make...

... patience... patience... patience...

Saturday, March 17, 2012

Large Format Lens Resolution - tests from 1990's into 2004

Before my old Hevanet site goes away, I want to republish some of the early lens tests that Kerry Thalmann and I performed over 15 years of curiosity on the topic.



Copyright 1998, 1999,2000,2001,2002,2004
Christopher M. Perez/Kerry L. Thalmann- All Rights Reserved



last updated: 04/19/04

Test Results - Large Format photographic lenses


Kerry Thalmann and I tested the lenses found in the
table below. The emphasis is on compact portable lenses for use
in the field. Comments regarding these tests follow the
table. More information can be found at the links provided above
and below. This has been a long project and I hope people find
merit in being able to review this information on-line.

You can use the following to 'jump' to the desired
section of this test page.


Please note: Take care in comparing lenses.
Some were tested from f/11 to f/22, while others were tested from f/16
to f/32, and still others from f/18 to f/32.


65mm thru 90mm
Manufacturer Model Length Fstop/cnt/mdl/edge Weight Shutter Serial number Age
Rodenstock APO Grandigon 55mm f/11 54 38 48


f/16 76 48 42

f/22 54 54 42
355g Copal 0 115292xx 2000's
Schneider Super Angulon f/8 65mm f/11 26
23 21


f/16 42 30 26


f/22 37 37 30
. Compur00 . 1950's
Schneider Super Angulon f/5.6 65mm f/11 67 60 38


f/16 67
60 42


f/22 48
48 42
325g Copal 0 14,379,xxx 1990's
Horseman Super ER f/5.6 75mm f/11 64 54 34

f/16 60 54 34

f/22 54 60 38
150g Seiko-SLV 12xxxx 1980's
Nikon SW f/4.5 75mm f/11 42
30 18


f/16 60 54 19


f/22 60 48 30
435g Copal 0 661xxx 1980's
Rodenstock Grandagon-N f/6.8 75mm f/11 67 60 42


f/16 60
60 24


f/22 54
54 38
. Copal 0 1133xxxx 1990's
Schneider Super Angulon f/8 75mm f/11 67 54 24

f/16 60
54 38



f/22 54
48 38
415g Compur 0 985xxxx 1966
Ziess Dagor f/9 7.5cm f/11 60 34 17


f/16 54 42 19

f/22 48 42 21
65g (true!) . 265xxxx ?
Schneider Super Symmar XL f/4.5 80mm f/11 76 42 34

f/16 76 42 42


f/22 60 48 42
270g Copal 0 1477xxxx 2000
Schneider Super Symmar XL f/4.5 80mm f/11 48 54 38


f/16 67
54 48


f/22 60
54 54
270g Copal 0 1479xxxx 2000
Schneider

- too soft to focus


- returned to factory
Super Symmar XL f/4.5 80mm f/11 42 30 18

f/16 60 60 42


f/22 60 60 48
270g Copal 0 147xxxxx 2000
Congo WideField f/6.3 90mm f/16 67
38 24



f/22 60 42 24

f/32 48 42 38
f/11 42 30 22


f/16 60 54 38

f/22 54 54 33

145g Copal 0 301xx5 1990's
Congo WideField f/6.3 90mm f/11 60
32 18


f/16 60 42 19


f/22 60 54 21
145g Copal 0 302xx4 1990's
Congo WideField f/6.3 90mm f/11 42
38 38



f/16 60 67 54

f/22 60 54 42
145g Copal 0 301xx9 1990's
Komura

- elements beginning


to separate
f/6.3 90mm f/11 26
26 24


f/16 33 30 26

f/22 54 42 26
??? Copal 0 ??? ???
Nikon SW f/8 90mm f/11 80
80 60


f/16 67 67 60


f/22 60 54 54
355g Copal 0 693xxx 1980's
Schneider Angulon f/6.8 90mm f/11 60 54 19


f/16 60 60 21

f/22 54 54 42
150g Synchro-Compur #0 9733xxx 1966
Schneider Angulon f/6.8 90mm f/11 48 54 48

f/16 60/54/48


f/22 42 48 48
. Copal 0 768xxx7 1960's
Schneider Angulon f/6.8 90mm f/16 67
60 21



f/22 60 54 38

f/32 42 42 27
120g . 419xxxx 1950's
Schneider Angulon f/6.8 90mm f/16 67
54 48


f/22 67 67 42


f/32 42 38 30
125g . 246xxxx 1950's
Schneider Angulon f/6.8 90mm f/11 54
42 32



f/16 60 54 32

f/22 60 60 42
125g . 537xxxx 1950's
Schneider Angulon f/6.8 90mm f/11 76
35 38


f/16 61 38 38


f/22 61 68 61
145g . 891xxxx 1960's
Schneider Angulon f/6.8 90mm f/16 13
15 12



f/22 11 13 12

f/32 30 30 21
120g . 360xxxx 1950's
Schneider Super Angulon f/8 90mm f/11 67
67 17


f/16 60 54 21
370g Copal 0 118xxxx0 1980's
Graphlex WA Optar f/6.8 90mm f/11 54
32 15


f/16 54 42 24


f/22 54 44 18
140g Rapax 903xxxx 1960's
Wollensak WA Raptar f/6.3 3 1/2" f/16 60
42 24



f/22 60 54 24

f/32 42 42 30
135g Rapax 907xxx 1960's

100mm thru 163mm

Goerz
Zeiss Dagor
f/9 100mm f/11 54 42 19


f/16 54 54 21

f/22 48 54 30
. . . .
Kodak WF Ektar f/6.3 100mm f/16 67 60 30


f/22 60 60
30


f/32 48 42 30
175g Supermatic RYxxx 1950's
Kodak Ektar f/3.7


- this is really a 6x9

format lens, but is

included here because

I tested it using a 4x5

camera
105mm f/5.6 68 54 19

f/8 68 42 42

f/11 85 68 48

f/16 76 68 60


f/22 60 60 54
.

Supermatic ES5xx


1940's

Wollensak WA Raptar

f/6.3
108mm f/6.3 26
16 11


f/22 60 42 30
190g Rapax 815xxx 1960's
Schneider Super Symmar XL
f/5.6
110mm f/11 80
67 60


f/16 67 67 67


f/22 60 60 60
430g Copal 1 1416xxxx 1990's
Schneider Super
Symmar XL f/5.6
110mm f/11
24 38 42



f/16 42 48 42

f/22 54 48 42
430g Copal
1
1485xxxx 1990's
Schneider Super Symmar XL f/5.6 110mm f/11 76 76 54

f/16 54 68
48



f/22 60 60 54
430g Copal 1 14713xxx 1990's
Goerz WA Dagor f/8 4 3/8" f/11 60
60 24



f/16 60 60 18

f/22 54 54 18
. . 803xxx 1960's
Bosch&Lomb Series 5
Protar f/18
113mm f/18 54
54 23


f/22 54 60 30


f/32 42 48 38
125g Copal 0 TS24xx 19x0's
Caltar II-N 115mm f/11
68 60 42



f/16 54 48 42

f/22 54 48 42
715g Copal
1
10682xxx 1980's?
Congo WideAngle f/6.3 120mm f/11 42
42 30


f/16 42 42 32


f/22 44 44 32
145g Copal 0 302xxx 1990's
Congo WideAngle f/6.3 120mm f/11 32
30 18



f/16 38 30 19

f/22 60 42 24
145g Copal 0 301xxx 1990's
Schneider SuperSymmar HM f/5.6 120mm f/11 42
42 24


f/16 80 80 60


f/22 67 60 42
390g Copal 0 142xxxxx 1980's
Schneider APO
Symmar f/5.6
120mm f/11
54 54 48



f/16 76 54 54

f/22 60 54 48
190g Copal
0
1462xxxx 1990's
Schneider APO Symmar f/5.6 120mm f/11 67
67 38


f/16 64 64 54

f/22 60 60 42
190g Copal 0 143xxxxx 1980's
Fuji CM-W f/5.6 125mm f/11 42
33 38


f/16 60 54 54


f/22 60 60 54
. Copal 0 75xxx3 1990's
Goerz Carl Ziess
Jena f/9
12.5cm f/16 60

67 38


f/22 54 54 48

f/32 48 48 42
155g Copal 0 124xxxx 19x0's
Fuji Fujinon-W/EBC f/5.6 135mm f/11 76 76 48

f/16 68 68 48


f/22 54 60 54
230g Copal #0 542xxx 1980's
Fuji Fujinon-W f/5.6 135mm f/11 21 30 60


f/16 33 42 54

f/22 48 54 54
230g Copal #0 542xxx 1980's
Graphlex Optar f/4.7 135mm f/11 42
42 33


f/16 54 48 38


f/22 42 42 42
195g Rapax G2xxx1 1950's
Kodak WF Ektar f/6.3 135mm f/11 76 53 35


f/16 76 67
44


f/22 63 63 54
290g Supermatic RExxx 1950's
Kodak WF Ektar f/6.3 135mm f/11 42
42 24


f/16 48 38 24


f/22 67 54 42
290g Supermatic EEIxxxx 1960's???
Nikon W f/5.6 135mm f/11 48
38 15



f/16 67 42 21

f/22 60 54 38
210g Copal 0 722xxx 1980's
Nikon W f/5.6 135mm f/11 27
21 19


f/16 60 42 15


f/22 54 54 30
210g Copal 0 710xxx 1980's
Rodenstock Sironar N f/5.6 135mm f/11 48
48 24



f/16 54 54 54

f/22 60 54 54
185g Copal 0 109xxxx2 1980's
Rodenstock APO Sironar N f/5.6 135mm f/11 38 42 30

f/16 54 60 54


f/22 48 48 48
170g Copal 0 11369xxx 1990's
Rodenstock APO Sironar S f/5.6 135mm f/11 38
42 42



f/16 58 58 38

f/22 64 64 59
215g Copal 0 112xxxxx 1990's
Schneider Linhof Xenotar f/3.5 135mm f/11 42 38 42

f/16 60 60
54



f/22 54 54 54
375g Synchro-Compur #1 10,959,xxx 1968
Fuji NSW f/5.6 150mm f/11 68 76 68


f/16 68 76 68

f/22 60 60 60
.


Copal 0 .

1980's

Fuji W f/6.3 150mm f/11 60 60 48


f/16 48 60
54


f/22 54 60 54
140g Seiko #0 130xxx 1970's
Fuji W f/6.3 150mm f/11 60
60 48


f/16 48 60 54


f/22 54 60 54
140g Copal 0 130xx8 1970's
Fuji WS f/6.3 150mm f/11 60
67 48



f/16 60 67 48

f/22 60 60 54
140g Copal 0 121xx9 1970's
Goerz WA Gold Ring

f/8
6 1/2" f/11 21
24 21


f/16 38 54 48


f/22 48 48 48
. Ilex 786xx8 1960's
Kowa Graphic f/9 150mm f/11 76
76 48



f/16 67 67 67

f/22 42 60 60
260g Copal 0 12xx2 1980's
Rodenstock Geronar 150mm f/11
60 38 24


f/16 76 48 34


f/22 48 54 48
145g Copal
0
10424xxx 1980's?
Rodenstock APO Sironar(W) f/5.6 150mm f/16 68 68 42


f/22 54 60 54
??? Copal 1 10886xxx 1990's
Rodenstock APO
Sironar S f/5.6
150mm f/11
54 54 42



f/16 54 54 54

f/22 54 54 48
230g Copal
0
116xxxxx 1990's
Rodenstock APO Sironar S f/5.6 150mm f/11 76
85 43


f/16 76 76 43


f/22 60 60 48
230g Copal 0 113xxxxx 1990's
Rodenstock Sironar N f/5.6 150mm f/11 76
57 27



f/16 76 76 30

f/22 60 60 43
200g Copal 0 103xxxxx 1980's
Schneider APO Symmar f/5.6 150mm f/11 54
60 54


f/16 60 60 54


f/22 42 42 38
235g Copal 0 145xxxx8 1990's
Schneider Symmar-S f/5.6 150mm f/11 76
85 38



f/16 57 60 38

f/22 67 67 48
215g Copal 0 141xxxxx 1980's
Schneider G-Claron f/9 150mm f/11 67
43 30


f/16 76 67 38


f/22 60 60 48
130g Copal 0 142xxxxx 1980's
Schneider Super
Symmar HM f/5.6
150mm f/11
38 42 38



f/16 76 76 42

f/22 54 54 42
740g Copal
0
1449xxxx 1990's
Schneider

- coating imperfections

Super Symmar HM f/5.6 150mm f/11 20 30 42

f/16 30 48

48


f/22 42 48 48
740g Copal 0 143xxxxx 1990's
Schneider Symmar

Convertable f/5.6
150mm f/11 42
48 38


f/16 42 48 42

f/22 48 64 42
. Linhof 449xxxx 1950's
Schneider Symmar

Convertable f/5.6
150mm

single element

at 265mm
f/16 48

48 23


f/22 48 48 33

f/32 42 42 38
. Linhof 449xxxx 1950's
Schneider Symmar

Convertable f/5.6
150mm

single element

at 265mm

with #15 yellow


filter
f/16 48
48 21


f/22 48 48 32


f/32 30 38 33
. Linhof 449xxxx 1950's
Schneider Xenar f/5.6 150mm f/11 42 54 26

f/16 54 67 24


f/22 67 60 48
170g Copal 0 14xxxxxx 1990's
Voightlander APO Lanthar

lite element separation
15cm f/11 67 67 42


f/16 54 67
54


f/22 54 42 42
290g Linhof Select blackface 6745xxx 1960's
Ilex Paragon-S f/4.5 163mm f/11 64 48 21

f/16 34 42 30

f/22 58 54 48
. Ilex 52xx9 1960's
Schneider Angulon
f/6.8
165mm f/11
54 54 15


f/16 54 54 24

f/22 48 48 34
500g Copal
3
13339xxx 1970's
Schneider Angulon f/6.8 165mm f/11 xx xx xx

f/16 54 38

17


f/22 48 42 21
300g Linhof Select blackface 9031xxx 1960's

180mm thru 270mm

Computar Symmetrigon
f/6.3
180mm f/11 42
33 26



f/16 60 60 33

f/22 54 54 30
386g Copal 1 74xxx2 1980's
Fuji A f/9 180mm f/11 67 76 34

f/16 67 67 42

f/22 60 60 38
190g Copal 0 28xxxx 1970's
Schneider Symmar-S/MC
f/5.6
180mm f/11
54 54 48


f/16 60 48 42

f/22 54 54 42
450g Compur
1
1410xxxx 1980's
Schneider Symmar-S f/5.6

(single coated)
180mm f/11 54 54 60

f/16 85 67 60

f/22 60 54 54
455g Copal 1 1216xxxx 1970's
Bausch and Lomb Protar series-V f/18 183mm f/18 42 38 30


f/22 54 48 42

f/32 42 42 38
. . LF3xx5 .
Kodak Ektar f/7.7 203mm f/11 60 67 48


f/16 60 60
54


f/22 60 60 54
180g Supermatic RExxx 1950's
Kodak Anastigmat
/7.7 uncoated
203mm f/11 48
67 54


f/16 67 73 42


f/22 54 60 48
180g Supermatic no-ser 1930's
Nikkor M-series f/8 200mm f/11 68 76 38


f/16 68 68 34

f/22 60 54 48
180g Copal 0 200xxx 1980's?
Nikkor M-series f/8 200mm f/11 60
60 30


f/16 67 60 30


f/22 60 67 54
180g Copal 0 201xxx 1980's
Computar (Kowa) f/9 process lens 210mm f/9 48 30
26



f/11 48 38 38

f/16 60 54 48

f/22 48 48 48
<220g Copal 1 ??? 1970's
Fuji L-series
f/5.6
210mm f/11
54 54 34



f/16 68 60 48

f/22 48 48 42
340g Copal
1
255xxx 1970's
Fuji L-series f/5.6 210mm f/11 34 38 34

f/16 54 48 42


f/22 42 48 42
340g Copal 1 253xxx 1970's
Fuji W-series f/5.6 210mm f/11 xx xx xx

f/16 54 48 42


f/22 60 48 48
475g Copal 1 253xxx 1980's
Nikkor W-series f/5.6 210mm f/11 60
42 24



f/16 60 60 38

f/22 48 54 54
475g Copal 1 757xxx 1980's
Rodenstock APO
Sironar-S f/5.6
210mm f/11
68 60 38


f/16 76 54 54


f/22 60 54 54
465g Copal
1
11589xx1 1990's
Rodenstock APO Sironar-S f/5.6 210mm f/11 54 38 48


f/16 76 48 54

f/22 60 48 54
465g Copal 1 11589xx0 1990's
Rodenstock SironarN f/5.6 210mm f/11 48
54 42


f/16 42 42 38

f/22 34 34 34
415g Copal 1 103xxxx1 1980's
Schneider Symmar APO f/5.6 210mm f/11 76
76 60


f/16 67 67 54


f/22 60 60 54
475g Copal 1 143xxxxx 1990's
Fuji A-series f/9 240mm f/11 54 38 34


f/16 68 60
54


f/22 60 60 60
245g Copal 0 5xxxxx 1990's
Fuji A-series f/9 240mm f/11 60
54 48


f/16 76 60 48


f/22 60 67 60
245g Copal 0 522xxx 1990's
Rodenstock APO
Ronar f/9
240mm f/11
76 68 38



f/16 68 48 54

f/22 60 42 48
355g Copal
0?
10526xxx 1970's
Goerz Red Dot Artar f/9 9.5 inch f/11 54 38 24

f/16 60 54 24


f/22 60 60 42
185g Compur 1 838xxx 1960's
Schneider Linhof TeleArton
f/5.6
250mm f/11 xx xx xx

f/16 54 60 54


f/22 54 60 54
820g Prontor-Pro #1 14,076,xxx 1984
Ilex Paragon f/6.3 254mm f/11 26
42 30



f/16 48 48 42

f/22 54 54 54
. Ilex #2 1xx2 1950's
Rodenstock TeleOptar

f/6.5
270mm f/11 48
48 30


f/16 48 38 34


f/22 42 33 30
900g Copal 0 469xxx6 1970's
Rodenstock TeleRotelar
f/6.5
270mm f/11 21

21 21


f/16 38 42 19

f/22 42 33 33
940g Copal 0 491xxx2 1970's


300mm and longer
Doktor Tessar
f/5.6
300mm f/11
38 34 27


f/16 54 48 48

f/22 60 42 54
745g Copal
3
10xx .

Nikon M f/9 300mm f/11 67
67 47


f/16 48 42 42

f/22 42 42 42
270g Copal 1 75xxx6 1980's
Nikon M f/9 300mm f/11 48 48
48


f/16 48 48 48

f/22 54 54 54
270g Copal 1 75xxx2 1980's
Fuji Fujinon-T f/8 300mm f/11 54 38 38

f/16 54 42 38

f/22 54 48 38
415g Copal 0 70xxxx 1990's
Fuji Fujinon-W f/5.6 300mm f/11 38 48 42

f/16 48 54 48

f/22 48 54 48
1100g Copal #3 272xxx 1980's
Schneider G-Claron f/9 305mm f/16 67 67 54

f/22 54 60 54
. Copal 1 . 1989
Goerz L.D.Artar f/9 14inch f/11 19 15 10

f/16 38 38 21


f/22 48 48 30
f/11 42 34 26

f/16 54 42 33

f/22 xx xx xx

315g Compur #2 837xxx .
Goerz L.D.Artar f/9 14inch f/11 48 48 24

f/16 48 60 42

f/22 48 54 48
565g Copal #3S


front mounted
837xxx .
Fuji A-series f/10 360mm f/11 48 48 42

f/16 54 48 42

f/22 48 48 48
475g Copal 1 521xxx 1980's
Nikon T-ED f/8 360mm f/11 42 42 42

f/16 54 60 54

f/22 54 54 54
. Copal 1 52xxx6 1980's
Schneider Tele Xenar Compact 400mm f/11 50 50 42


f/16 50 42 50

f/22 50 42 50
870g Copal 3 xxx 200x
Fuji C-series
f/12.5
450mm f/16 54 54 54


f/22 54 54 54

f/32 38 33 38
285g Copal 1 640xx0 1990's
Fuji C-series f/12.5 450mm f/12.5 48 48 24


f/16 48 48 34

f/22 48 48 34

f/32 42 48 34
285g Copal 1 640xxx 1990's
Nikon T-ED f/11 500mm f/16 19

19 19


f/22 42 38 33

f/32 42 42 42
185g rear element
weight
Copal 1 18xxx0 1980's
Nikon T-ED f/16 720mm f/22 38 42 38

f/32 34 34

34


f/45 30 26 30
150g rear element weight Copal 1 200xxx 1980's

Please NOTE:

  • This is at best a relative (not absolute)
    comparison between these lenses. Kerry and I are simply looking for the Pick
    of the Litter
    .


  • All lenses tested at 1:20 magnification (a
    typical working distance).

  • Test setup was TMax100, D76 processed to my
    system's calibrated exposure/time/temp

  • Canham DCLH(?) metal field 4x5, Linhof Tech III,
    Linhof Master Technika, Linhof Master Karden, and Tachihara wood field
    4x5

  • Edmond Scientific Lens Resolution Chart

  • The negatives were exposed for Zone 7-8 for
    detailed white and Zone 3 for detailed shadow.

It's also important to remember that things that
influence system testing include:



  • Camera alignment

  • lens quality

  • ground glass plane accuracy (which influences
    holder accuracy)

  • film's granularity

  • light source (narrow band blue will test better
    than narrow band red)

  • film sag/bulge/droop at focal plane


  • test pattern



As a comparison, I include Larry Whatley's test
results.


From: linda_aw@ix.netcom.com(Linda A Whatley )
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.large-format
Subject: Resolution Data - Ektar 203 7.7
Date: 3 Mar 1997 01:43:37 GMT
X-NETCOM-Date: Sun Mar 02  5:43:37 PM PST 1997

Here is resolution data of a Kodak 203mm f/7.7 Ektar,
measured in the film plane with an eyepiece. (Thanks, Bill F., for
lending it!) This is a very good lens, usually at a modest used price.
Corners for this lens are at 21 degrees for 4x5 and 27 degrees for 5x7.
Angles here are half-field angles-- angle from the optical axis. Notice
that you need to be a little careful in using this one for 5x7 if you
want the corners sharp.


- Larry Whatley





          0     5    10    15    20    25    27    29    30   deg. from axis
f/stop  ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- -----

7.7     100    75    60    50    50    30     5     0     0   lines/mm
11      120   105    85    70    50    35    15     0     0
16       90    90    75    60    50    35    25     0     0
22       60    60    60    55    50    40    35     5     0
32       50    50    45    45    40    40    40    10     0
45       30    30    30    30    30    30    30    20     0